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*Sales Preference:* How to Know When Someone is a Supporter, Opponent, or Neutral and Where to Concentrate

In the complex sale, generating group consensus is the name of the game. This means the goal should always be to definitively determine who’s in your corner and who’s not in your corner, so you’re taking the appropriate actions. A misdiagnosis here will almost certainly result in unwanted surprises down the road.

 If someone’s in your corner, they’re a supporter (green). If they’re not in your corner, they’re an opponent (red). If you’re unsure, mark them as neutral (gray) and potentially treat them as opponents. Here’s an example of a buyer map I quickly put together for this post using Microsoft.

When Should a Stakeholder be Considered a Supporter?

Whenever I’m in a one-on-one with a sales rep and I see someone marked as a supporter, I always challenge it with “Why do you consider this stakeholder a supporter?” It’s not because I don’t believe they’re a supporter or because I want to make the rep’s life difficult. It’s because if you start treating someone as a supporter when they’re not, you can absolutely get burned down the line. It’s the rep’s call, but it’s healthy to challenge this so the rep thinks deeply about it and makes an objective determination. If I feel any hesitation from the rep, I tend to ask this as a follow-up question: “If that person were asked independently which solution they would choose, without you in the room, are you absolutely confident they would choose our solution?”

If you want to get really granular, we believe there are varying levels of supporters, but for simplicity purposes we just call them Supporters. Here are the levels we see though:

  1. Accepting: They approve of your solution and have accepted it as the right choice for the company over all other solutions, but aren’t exactly head over heels or passionate about it and they certainly won’t stick their necks out for you.
  2. Advocating: This is a true supporter that will advocate and sell for you when you’re not present. You should have zero doubts about whether or not they’d recommend your solution when asked. 
 

When Should a Stakeholder be Considered an Opponent?

Opponents are stakeholders who don’t support your solution. When asked independently, these stakeholders will not recommend your solution or actively recommend an alternative solution. Like the supporter designation, we believe there are varying levels of opponents as well, but we stick with the “Opponent” designation for simplicity purposes. However, here are the levels we see:

  1. Active Skeptic: This stakeholder will challenge you at every turn. They have a “concern” (my least favorite word in business), in every meeting that casts doubt or shadows over your wonderful solution.
  2. Vocal Opponent: This is someone that is actively advocating for another provider or just against you in general. They’re doing more than simply challenging you at every turn. Everyone knows this stakeholder does not favor you, so where they stand is clear.
  3. Combative: This person’s hostility is actively campaigning against you and is toxic to your deal. If they could wear a T-shirt around the office that says, “Don’t buy from this vendor because they’re awful”, they would. Their motivation could be personal, political, or a combination of the two, but their mind cannot be changed. Too far gone.

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When Should a Stakeholder be Considered Neutral?

Neutral means you’ve interacted with them, but they’re not clearly a supporter or opponent. If you’ve never met them and don’t know about them, don’t mark them as neutral. Just leave it blank. Again, there can be varying levels of neutrality, but for simplicity we just use the designation of neutral. Here are the levels we see though:

  1. Receptive: These are people who are open to the idea of your solution. They probably genuinely see the value and if your solution were purchased, they wouldn’t have any major issues. 
  2. Indifferent: This is someone who simply doesn’t care what gets selected. If given the opportunity to vote, they’ll likely vote in the direction of the majority or in the direction of someone internally that has positive social influence over them.

 

Which Stakeholders Should I Focus my Time and Energy on?

Please refer to the “Stakeholder Concentration Curve” below for our recommendation. This is purely an example of a single sales scenario and the size of each of the seven sections will vary from deal to deal. 

We’ve gone into greater detail on what to do with each of these stakeholder types in our post on how to manage stakeholders with different levels of preference. In general though, the folks on the far left side (Combative and Vocal Opponent) are too far gone to spend any time on. You want to neutralize them. On the far right side, you’ve got your biggest advocates. You don’t need to do anything else to convince them about your solution. Then there are the stakeholders in the center. These are all people you want to convert to as close to advocacy as possible. To do that, we suggest recruiting existing advocates to speak with or encourage those who are not. 

In summary, time is limited and sales professionals must concentrate on those that are actually able to be converted. Those with the most advocates in the end typically win.

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Mollie Bodensteiner is an experienced operations professional with a demonstrated track record of utilizing technology to support operational processes that drive performance and innovation.

She currently is the Vice President of Operations at Sound and owns go-to-market agency, MB Solutions. Mollie has previously held operations leadership roles at Deel, Syncari, Corteva and Marketo.

She has over 14 years of experience in both B2C and B2B operations and technology. When she is not working, Mollie enjoys spending time with her husband, three small children, and two large dogs.

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Growing up in the age of Disney and Nick@Nite I always wanted to be a child actor (good thing that never was actually pursued 🙂

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My journey from Education to Operations has equipped me with a unique perspective and skill set that perfectly aligns with Forecastable’s mission to help businesses improve sales collaboration through partner co-selling strategies.

At Forecastable, I am passionate about empowering teams and organizations to unlock the full potential of strategic partnerships. By leveraging my expertise in communication, leadership, and operational efficiency, I contribute to creating seamless co-selling processes that align with business goals and deliver exceptional results.

The intersection of my educational foundation and operational experience fuels my dedication to fostering alignment, building trust, and enhancing collaboration between partners. I am driven by the opportunity to contribute to a platform that not only optimizes sales strategies but also strengthens relationships that lead to long-term growth.

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After serving in The United States Marine Corps, Alex Buckles spent the next two decades as a student of revenue production and an advocate for innovation.

Along the way, he has helped numerous companies achieve double and triple-digit growth by crafting and executing high-performing go-to-market strategies, with co-selling at the center of each.

As a once-advanced technical marketer, an expert sales & partner professional, and a strong customer success advocate, Mr. Buckles understands the impact of these functions aligning not only on revenue production, but on the day-to-day execution of the go-to-market strategy. This concept of revenue-team alignment is what quickly became the foundation of Forecastable back in January of 2018.

In his free time, you’ll find him spending quality time with his children, one of whom is on the autism spectrum. 1 in 36 children in the U.S. are on the spectrum and boys are four times more likely to be diagnosed than girls.

With that in mind, Mr. Buckles plans on dedicating the rest of his life serving those living with autism, through his organization Pathways for Autism. From his perspective, there must be a scalable and financially self-sustaining infrastructure established to put as many individuals with autism as possible on a path towards complete independence as adults.

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Dave Govan is the Chief Executive Officer of Forecastable, Inc., a Privately Owned, Managed Services SaaS business helping Companies improve Collaboration and Sales Productivity with Partners. In his role Dave leads all aspects of the business.

Prior to Forecastable, Dave was the Global Chief Revenue Officer for NetWitness, a $200m business in the CyberSecurity Industry. At NetWitness, Dave led all customer-facing functions including Sales, Marketing, Channels, Professional Services, Customer Support, Customer Success and Sales Operations. In his role Dave assisted the Chairman on hitting EBITDA and Revenue Targets for the new Private Equity Owners after carving the business out from three other businesses at RSA as well as divesting from Dell EMC. Dave created and led a customer-first approach unifying all functions internally and externally to manage the transition and rebuild the organization. Prior to Netwitness, in his first two years at RSA, Dave was RSA’s Chief Revenue Officer of the Americas achieving his Revenue Targets in 2019 and 2020 and grew the business from $400 to $540 million across all Product Lines.

Prior to joining RSA, Dave was Vice President of Sales within the Big Data, IoT and Analytics Division of Hitachi Vantara for two years improving collaboration between Hitachi’s Hardware Sales Organization and his Organization resulting in closing large Software Contracts and achieving Plan. Prior to joining Hitachi, Dave served as Chief Revenue Officer for two early-stage SaaS growth companies, Sailthru and Dynamic Yield in the Marketing Technology space. In each role Dave built SaaS businesses from the ground up and laid the foundation for successful exits. At Sailthru, his Team closed 250 New Logos in 2 ½ years and grew Revenue from $3.7m ARR to $32m ARR Run Rate, increasing AOV by 10x. Prior to Sailthru, Dave founded and operated G2 Strategic Advisory Services full time, for five years helping Technology founders optimize Go-to-Market Strategies and improve Sales and Marketing execution.

Previously, Dave was Chief Revenue Officer of the Americas for VeriSign leading a $200m+ Sales Organization. At VeriSign, Dave turned around the organization and consistently achieved his numbers resulting in a 37% CAGR vs the Industry Standard CAGR of 17%. Prior to VeriSign, Dave worked as Chief Revenue Officer, in the Data Integration space joining Juice Software pre-product and helping the scale to their first Enterprise Customers. Previously, Dave worked at NetPerceptions, market leader in Personalization Technology, as VP of Sales for US East, Canada and LATAM. Prior to NetPerceptions, Dave worked for five years at Oracle Corporation in the Enterprise Major Accounts Organization. In his second year at Oracle, Oracle’s Executive Leadership Team named Dave Global Account Manager of the Year and he was given a double promotion to Regional Sales Manager, his first Sales Leadership role.

Dave started his technology industry sales career at Digital Equipment Corporation, the then 2nd largest Technology Company in the World. At DEC, Dave received excellent training and mentorship which helped him become a successful Major Account Executive, achieving Plan Eight years in a row, including two Top 10% Awards out of 5,000 Reps resulting in six promotions in eight years.

Dave’s professional development includes training by Dr. Jeff Spencer, former Olympian and Author of Champion’s Blueprint, and completion of Executive Training Programs with Dr. Noel Tichy, Director of the University of Michigan’s Global Leadership Program as well as an Executive Leadership Course at Babson College’s Executive Education Center.